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Characters & Shadows's avatar

I appreciated the way the essay resists using Thucydides as a prophecy machine. The temptation with the “trap” is to treat history as if it were a script already written, with Athens, Sparta, America, and China merely waiting to take their assigned places. But the essay’s more interesting claim is that the ancient pattern matters precisely because it is not destiny: it reveals recurring passions—fear, pride, insecurity, the hunger for recognition—without abolishing responsibility. That distinction seems crucial. History becomes dangerous not when it repeats itself, but when we become so convinced it must repeat that we begin helping it along.

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ANYA’s analysis is brilliant

The breakdown of internal cohesion of a civilization apparently occurs every 250 years according to GLUBB Pasha’s analysis, and it is evidently happening right now in the USA

Many of the allusions of ANYA taken directly from the Thucydides fit very well into the analysis of GLUBB, in his book on the fall of empires which is worth reading. You can get a PDF online.

Interestingly, anyone visiting China is amazed by a civilization moving forward, seemingly United internally, in spite of the dictatorship which is another question which won’t be answered for a few more generations

Population unity in war brings another book to the analysis , the Art of War by SUNTZU .

I think Anya is absolutely correct. It is so complex. It is hard to predict what can happen.

However, we can all take lessons from the Thucydides trap.

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